Don't Buy Vortex Optics… (dear vortex nation)

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  1. Thomas Bordelon on September 21, 2022 at 8:19 pm

    Never had a single issue with Razor 4.5-27 but then I dont have the budget for Nightforce or Schmidt Bender either. I’ll keep mine and let them ham handed people tear up their crap.

  2. The hunt 365 on September 21, 2022 at 8:21 pm

    I agree vortex is junk. I just bought a venom red dot and the windage dial doesn’t work right out of the box I also have a diamondback spotting scope it’s just not clear looks like my parents 15 year old Nikon

  3. TheReptileCult on September 21, 2022 at 8:21 pm

    IDK man if Vortex stuff really was terrible I don’t think they would be able to have such an insane warranty. The stuff you really cant trust is the budget stuff that doesn’t include a warranty because if it was actually good the warranty wouldn’t cost the company anything.

  4. Bearded Barista on September 21, 2022 at 8:22 pm

    Well, it is a fair bit of Chinese manufacturing. Not unique to vortex but I’ve always been skeptical about spending money on American brands that have Chinese materials.

  5. michael garner on September 21, 2022 at 8:22 pm

    Vortex sucks…brought to you by your friends at Leupold.

  6. Alan Wylie on September 21, 2022 at 8:22 pm

    I’ve had the cross hair to break in two different Vortex Scopes, once with a Crossfire ll on a Benelli M1 5.56 rifle, and the second with a Crossfire ll on a DPMS AR-10 .308 cal rifle. I’m now using the Hawke 4-12X40 scopes on my rifles and I’ve yet to had any problems whatsoever, not to mention, I like the Hawke scopes far better than the Vortex Scopes in every category. I use my guns every night when I go out to feed and to close up the chickens, you never know what kind of predator is watching you or your livestock, including the present day Nazi gestapo.

  7. Dakota Falzetta on September 21, 2022 at 8:24 pm

    I call bullshit. No chance you broke 11 optics unless you’re deliberately abusing them. I beat the shit out of all my gear and Vortex holds up just fine

  8. Gabe Logan on September 21, 2022 at 8:26 pm

    I’d say under 50% success with vortex

  9. Tim McFarland on September 21, 2022 at 8:26 pm

    I probably just got lucky but I have the Gen 1 razor 5-20 on my ELR 300 RUM and haven’t had one issue with it. Tracks 100% I guy bought it for hunting and was too heavy so I got it cheap. I bought the diamond back tactical 6-24 and hated it so I sold it. My next purchase will be the nightforce atacr 5-25 or the S&B 5-25

  10. Ong on September 21, 2022 at 8:27 pm

    HAHAHAHAHA ! This is a personal problem that you my friend need to work out on your own. Sounds like you probably break a lot more than just scopes. I do not hate anything about you as you are entitled to your opinion and you definitely seem genuine but through my travels Vortex optics are among the best on the market. I have the Razor HD LHT 4.5-22, Razor HD gen II 4.5-27 and the Razor HD gen III 1-10. They are great at what they do but keep in mind that no scope on the market is perfect ! Not Kahles, Nightforce, Swarovski, Steiner, none of them. They all have issues to some degree and all of them I bet even you can break. ⌖ ⌖ ⌖

  11. TheOutdoorsman on September 21, 2022 at 8:28 pm

    I had a issue with two vortex scopes. One I had replaced the other I just sent back. That was several yrs ago. Still have the replacement one. They may be ok now, but those experiences did put me off even if warranty was good. Shouldn’t have to use a warranty, but its there just in case. Wouldnt it be better to be known for having a great warranty, but it being rare to use it? To be fair, I’ve seen some stuff with Bushnell that was a big turn off as well, and Id probably try a vortex over a Bushnell. Ive had good luck with Burris. I did have a warranty replacement with a Burris, but it wasnt their fault, it was DNZ scope mounts with a new torque spec they recommend, that crushed scope tube. You should of read DNZs bizarre ignorant response on that, which is a shame as I like their mounts and have recommended them to many. Sadly some are being made in China now with Burris. I wish they would offer some better power ranges and reticles in hunting scopes. Their new Fullfied IV series kind of does, but I don’t like the zoom adjustment(no texture and slick to grab) and its one of the China made ones. Their Philippines made ones seemed fine. Hopefully not move toward all China made.

  12. Wyatt Payne on September 21, 2022 at 8:29 pm

    I’ve never had a problem, I do know that now they are manufactured in china and are not as quality,(tough,clear, fine tuned) as when they were made in Japan 4-5 years ago. I will say the new rzr HDs are not as clear as the older Japan model viper HDs. Having owned both. Older vortex is the way to go

  13. Mark Tse on September 21, 2022 at 8:29 pm

    my favorite scope is the eotech vudu 5-25 with an h59 ret. first one i ever got was broken out of the box. i couldn’t group or track at all. sent to to eotech and they sent a new one to me and it was flawless. Now i have 1 on all of my precision rifles except i’m also building a benchrest 6br rifle.

  14. Nathan Bonner on September 21, 2022 at 8:32 pm

    I tend to stay away from the budget tier of all scope manufacturers so your experience with the diamondback, etc. really didn’t surprise me. I’m a little shocked to hear you had issues with the Razor Gen 1. Most of what I’m hearing about the Gen 2’s and 3’s is that they’ve got the best warranty you’ll never have to use.
    Everything below the Razor line is assembled in China I believe (even though some had Japanese glass). Quality out of China has never been good and seems to be slipping further still as the 2020’s roll on. The prices are tempting and the warranty offers some sense of security but for critical gear, I’d personally advocate for spending the big money or spending nothing at all (iron sights that work are way better than a scope that doesn’t).

  15. UNRULY ARES on September 21, 2022 at 8:33 pm

    It’s your eyesight and sight picture

  16. Alex Blaze on September 21, 2022 at 8:33 pm

    “I have broken 11 Vortex Optics”
    I’m gonna call BS on that statement. Either a) you’re lying or b) you’re dumb enough to continue to use a product that keeps failing (ELEVEN FUKING TIMES!) on you.

    I’m going to go with option A because I really don’t think anyone could be that dumb.

  17. Taylor LeBlanc on September 21, 2022 at 8:34 pm

    Statements like this without offering your evidence of better is merely anecdotal…at best. Their return rate is lower than most. Everyone has problems.
    Who do you use now? Does anyone offer you optics?

  18. Mike Pierson on September 21, 2022 at 8:34 pm

    When an optic company has to sell its warranty first and then it’s optics second, that should be your first sign to run. They are absolute junk.

  19. Mike’s Aquariums on September 21, 2022 at 8:37 pm

    All this shit is made in the same place and it’s not the US

  20. scott sexton on September 21, 2022 at 8:37 pm

    Using equipment a lot and respecting it cool But being extremely hard on equipment and proud of that and complaining about stuff breaking ..dude come on ! What next never cleaning a weapon and when it jams its junk ? Bouncing a motor on its rev limiter cuz it sounds "cool" and when it throws a rod its junk ? Knucklehead logic lol

  21. Mr Smith on September 21, 2022 at 8:38 pm

    Sucks for you

  22. longstar550 on September 21, 2022 at 8:40 pm

    The diamond back is hit trash I know that

  23. Anthony Chiara on September 21, 2022 at 8:42 pm

    I just bought the vortex razor Gen. 3 and yes it’s just decoration

  24. PitFitHuntF@n😁 on September 21, 2022 at 8:45 pm

    I know a lot of users of Philippine, Japanese, and even China made vortex without single complaint from their units. Have 2 viper pst that I got for a bargain and used it on truck rigs and have banged them a lot in thick brush tropical jungle terrain. Scopes held out fine with properly torque high quality mounting systems. From reports on the internet though, there are a lot of complaints with these scopes but in person from shooters and hunters, no complaints. I am Aware however that there are a whole Lot of scopes like vortex, burris, and even Nikon whose parts are smuggled out of the factories and they are assembled outside and sold as new. In some cases even the box and instructions are included. With these scopes you are rolling the dice because although a lot of them are good and assembled properly except for the anti fog gas….chances are high you may get a dud with a lot of problems from loose turrets, way off parallax, molds developing in the lenses of ffp reticles, etc…. They are smuggled and bought in bulk… this is not limited to rifle scopes but with rangefinders, eliminator scopes, binoculars, spotting scopes, etc…

  25. ImNoGood on September 21, 2022 at 8:45 pm

    If you break everything maybe your cursed😂. I have a razor coming and NO you cant borrow it

  26. 320emerica on September 21, 2022 at 8:46 pm

    No issues with any of my vortex optics….

  27. Avery Neilson on September 21, 2022 at 8:47 pm

    I have owned over 30 Vortex Optics. 50% of them have had major issues. I am on the verge of getting rid of the last of what I have. In my experience the only thing they make that is any good are the gen 2 razors.

  28. ADL OUTDOORS on September 21, 2022 at 8:47 pm

    So with that being said what scope do you use that doesn’t break? I have several Vortex, Leupold and Meopta scopes and amazingly haven’t broken one yet. Thanks for the vid!

  29. Jace Kalu on September 21, 2022 at 8:47 pm

    You would be a perfect candidate for Swampfox trials. They love it when their products are harshly real-world tested. They only want to know how you broke it, so that they can make it better.

  30. Harry S. Hole on September 21, 2022 at 8:48 pm

    I had a Vortex Strikefire II. (The aimpoint m68 clone-ish)

    I would get zero shift by a few cunt hairs if the gun was rattled enough. (Yes, I loctited everything and torqued it correctly)

    It’s supposed to be water resistant. It’s not. At least mine wasn’t. Dunked it in a bucket of water for an hour and that was it. Dot was dead.

    Then I wizened the fuck up and dropped $400 on an Aimpoint ACO and learned my lesson.

    Warranty’s are cool but it doesn’t do me much good in the field

  31. KROM THE DESTROYER on September 21, 2022 at 8:49 pm

    So what do you recommend for long range shooting if vortex scopes suck? I just bought an endeavor and doing research on a good setup

  32. FOG on September 21, 2022 at 8:49 pm

    Any tips on where to buy Kahles online?

    I’d rather not have to go to a gun store and buy where: 1) they may just have a few in stock and where I take a chance on getting one that’s been handled by a bunch of customers; or 2) I have to wait for them to order, then go back to pick up (3 hours round trip each time).

  33. Bryan Reavis on September 21, 2022 at 8:52 pm

    I’ve got multiple Vortex scopes on all my hunting rifles and my AR15, been using them since 2017 and never had any issues with any of them.

  34. Steven Janus on September 21, 2022 at 8:54 pm

    Funny how he is known to always break shit and shits on a mfg for not building something that is built like a tank…he might break those too 😏

  35. Mr. Nobody on September 21, 2022 at 8:55 pm

    When you ask somebody why Vortex is good, they can only tell you about the warranty.

    To me, it sounds like a piece of shit that will break easily. Now, I’ve got a gun I can’t shoot because the optic is down

    You have to take time to take it off the gun, take time to make the claim, take time to box it up, and then wait

    When you get your warranty item back, you have to take time to re-mount it. Then, you have to spend time and ammo to re-zero it.


    I will happily buy a scope with a lesser warranty but is still made better in the first place

  36. Tommy Kawasaki on September 21, 2022 at 8:56 pm

    Current gun club buzz words –
    Vortex. Vortex. Vortex.
    6.5 creed.
    Black out.
    All fine stuff, but shit comes & goes.
    We will see which of the above stand the test of time.

  37. IamUurk on September 21, 2022 at 8:58 pm

    I have 3 vortex scopes and theyve all been amazing. No issues at all. Just got a venom 5-25 and it’s fantastic. I dont even own a gun case and I shoot quite often.

  38. Juicin Around on September 21, 2022 at 8:59 pm

    I mean the military is using vortex now 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ and chicks dig dudes who dont got small peens

  39. D W on September 21, 2022 at 9:00 pm

    Sounds like you’re the common denominator…

  40. you said on September 21, 2022 at 9:00 pm

    "I have broke 11 vortex optics. I don’t baby my guns, I fricken use my guns!"

    Okay so you’re careless and your guns all shoot to the left. I’ve heard all I need to hear.

  41. FOG on September 21, 2022 at 9:01 pm

    What do you think of the 1-10 LPVO? Reason I ask is that you said the 1-6 LPVO might be okay. I recently bought the 1-10 over the 1-6 because the 1-10 is FFP, which I prefer, plus the 10 high end is better for me with my poor vision. So far I like it, but haven’t used it enough yet to have an opinion.

    I’m like you. I hate to buy from a company that uses its customers to do its QC for it, even when it provides excellent warranty service. It’s like they’re saying, "Here, buy this from us, then take it out and test it for us so that we can see what percentage of them come broken fresh out of the factory. If yours comes to you already broken, send it back, and we’ll replace it. Sorry, but we don’t really care how much of your time we’ve wasted for you to do the testing for us and to deal with the shipping and to go through the process of mounting and zeroing two or three times."

    I’ve had multiple bad experiences with their products, but also so good experiences.

    Bought a Crossfire Red Dot that was defective right out of the box. Sent it back for replacement. They quickly sent a replacement that quickly turned to crap, exhibiting the same defects as the first one. Am about to send the second one back to have it replaced.

    Bought a Razor HD 4000 range finder that was defective right out of the box. Had to send it back for replacement. I’m happy with the replacement.

    Bought Viper PST II 5-25×50 FFP that’s working satisfactorily so far. Setting the turret caps to "0" after zeroing is cumbersome, and it’s difficult to get them to actually tighten on the "O" mark.

    Bought a pair of their binoculars. I’m happy with them.

  42. Jason Brumley on September 21, 2022 at 9:02 pm

    So you had an entire video dawging vortex but you never gave a shoutout to your preferred optic? What optic would you use instead of vortex?

  43. J B on September 21, 2022 at 9:04 pm

    There is no Vortex Razor 1-6 FFP, just for clarity. I think your referencing the SFP. Vortex definitely has cheap stuff made in china. The lowest tier that should be bought in my options is the PST Gen IIs which are not made in china but the Philippines. The Razor line is made in Japan by one of the top scope OEMs in the world, which is why it’s used and trusted. AMG is USA made. Having said all that any and all scopes can a do break, Zeiss, zco, Nightforce, Schmidt and bender, it just happens. For the "budget" minded go with Phillipines or Japanese made scopes and you’ll be good and have a better shot at not having issues.

  44. Anthony Saint Paul on September 21, 2022 at 9:05 pm

    By your own admission you seem to be very abusive with your equipment. I don’t have money to piss away, so when I get a new piece of equipment I don’t baby it, but I treat it with tender loving care.

  45. Chad Linton. on September 21, 2022 at 9:07 pm

    Theres the right way and easy way of doing things.

  46. MTN HUNTER on September 21, 2022 at 9:08 pm

    I’m glad someone finally said this outloud….I’ve had several vortex optics and have never been impressed and always had issues. All you hear is people talk about the warranty, how about you make a quality product that you don’t have to use the fukn warranty every other day. For cats that don’t run their shit hard….ohhh Vortex is the best…..used hard / pro use, they suck ass nuts!!

  47. bpintogsxr1000 on September 21, 2022 at 9:09 pm

    Instead of being negative about a company or product, why not just keep it to yourself. I would not take any of your advice. We have no clue how your running your gear or set up. Too many variables. Are you a professional bench rest or PRS shooter? Are you a professional gunsmith or machinest? What I mean is we don’t know how you torqued your scope down or how many proven competitions you lost becuase of your scope. My gen 2 razor never had a scope tracking problem, and i don’t even have a case for the rifle. Throw in the back seat and drive 3 hours to comp. Why would I want to subscribe to someone who will trash a company? Theres so much negativity in the world today and to many "know it alls" without even being a pro in their own area. It’s like taking financial advice from all your buddies who are broke. At the end of the day……….who cares. Let be people be people. Oh I forgot, need to generate content for your youtube channel. Like I just did for you. You’re welcome. PS…..cheer up. Don’t be mad. lol

  48. SCUBA STEEEVE on September 21, 2022 at 9:11 pm

    All butthurt comments have been brought to you by sensitive vortex owners. 🤣

  49. bluerazors on September 21, 2022 at 9:11 pm

    My Nightforce scopes with 2 sets (Dave Lauk style) of Nightforce STEEL or Leupold MK4 rings. The only thing I ever had that never shifted of broke.

  50. idk on September 21, 2022 at 9:17 pm

    I mean Frank SH’s tracking tests showed the Razor Gen 2’s were near 100% consistently.

    The PRS survey shows that the Razors are the #1 scope used in PRS. Razors, made in Japan by LOW are as good as most of the high end optic field in terms of build quality. Sure they aren’t ZCO, they arent TT but that being said LOW manufactures high end scopes for many of the big names.

    So it kind’ve sounds like you have an issue with the Chinese line and if that’s not the case it sounds like you have an issue that every gun social media personality has: a sponsorship one.

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