Hi-Point C9 9mm feeding issues
Hi-Point C9 9mm feeding issues
The Hi-Point C9 9mm, although a great value, has feeding issues stemming solely from the magazine. I have three magazines, all which have the same issue. When four or more rounds are loaded into the magazine, the friction from the 9mm cartridges inhibits the topmost round from raising at an appropriate angle, causing the round to nose dive, entering the feed ramp at the very bottom, pointing the wrong direction. This means that a lot of force is needed to feed round into chamber, sometimes causing the slide to stay open, requiring a smack on the back of the slide to enter the new round. People have suggested bending the feed lips in such a way as to alleviate the problem, however, I have not had any luck in doing so. Again, I have three magazines, and the same problem exists with all three. Polishing the feed ramp on the pistol to reduce friction seems to help. It is not a huge issue, and I’m hoping the issue will resolve itself as the gun gets broken in. Nevertheless, Hi-Point should spend time on improving their magazines.
mass production is never perfect and always needs a little tweaking. ive never called hi point for service, do they sell or send individual replacement parts such as safety levers, springs, etc, or do you have to ship the gun for repairs? i prefer fixing problems myself, like the mag issue, just curious if anybody knows. MPA mini 9 bump fire vid on my channel check it out. hi point rocks!
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Try leaving the mags loaded for a couple weeks
I just got a Hi Point 9mm and found this out too. Has there been any fix other than get a higher capacity mag and load less into it?
You are rite poishing the ramp is geting around the problem.So is adjusting the feedlips.It weak mag spring from the factroy.If you on my page i have a helpfull video to add more tention to your mag spring.The first clue is how easy there mags are to load.A good mag should hars as hell to load the two or three rounds.Hipoints all most fall rite in.Thats weak!
The rounds in my C9 dive as well but the gun has never jammed. I did adjust the lips on a magazine my friend had. It never jammed after that.
hi points are garbage any one who buys one are people who do not have money to get a glock or sig so hi point will make these with piece of shit parts and magazines i mean hea its oviuos your going to not get a good hand gun for 200 bucks ive owned a hi point 9mm and had nothing but problem or untill they make or fix better clips so they dont jam shoot it and throw it away
Thanks for the info. Most people recommend a real fine grit sand paper. Sand just a little bit off at a time until the ramp is smooth. I noticed that On mine, some of the barrel finish is chipping off so the surface is a bit uneven so I can see where polishing the ramp could help. Yes, bending the magazine is a lame suggestion. I have tried but I guess I haven’t found the right position of the feed lips, lol.
Made some simple adjustmentsto magazine and now it works flawlessly
I shaved down my last round hold open and now it works flawlessly… If you pay attention when you slowly insert your magazine back into your pistol, the rounds rub against the last round hold open and pushes it down and to the right a little. So when you are shooting your round gets pushed down and to the right which of course causes feeding issues. I just took a small file and shaved it off enough for it not to rub against the rounds when I insert the mag. You WILL NOT have the last round hold open function anymore after the alteration, but it is a $130 gun… This change has made my pistol very reliable.
I love my HP CF 380. Great gun fun but horrible magazines. I bought the 10 + 1 magazine and everytime at the range I get a jam. Into 150 rounds and I’ve had about 5 jams. It’s a shame because the pistol is legit… It’s just the magazines suck. I had to buy a $600 M&P Shield 9mm. Hopefully I have better luck!!
First, You can try adding more bends to the magazine springs. Next, polish the feed ramp on the pistol itself. Last, try using a hotter round. All these mods helped on my c9’s.
J.DALTON go to his channel for HI POINT MODIFICARIONS and all your problems will go away and are FREE
Just got a 2013 c9. Love the gun…hate the mag. Gonna buy an aftermarket mag from magpro. Its the mag that should have come factory.
Does it eject the spent casing. Mine doesnt eject the spent casing causing the round being chambered to jam. EVERY TIME ITS FIRED. I dont know how to fix this issue. I am going to the range today i will look at the magazine for your issue but not sure if that has anything to do with my failure to eject. Any help would be appreciated.
i think the front bump on the plastic of the mag where the first round is pushed in should be slightly higher and the metal lips of the mag should be pushed closer together on the primer side , forcing the round to have a little more than level angle. the front lips of the mag on my 40 dont even touch the round. havent really had issues since i modified the mag like i said.
My 10rd magazine is giving me the same issue, my 8rd works fine however. I’m going to clean and oil the magazine nicely and see if that helps.
Ha! I didn’t get any blame, but got the same "bend the feed lips" answer. That’s pretty lame and the guy didn’t sound very professional, which drops my confidence in the gun even more! In their defense, I at least had a good experience a month or so ago when I called due to mags dropping out of the gun while firing. Lady sent two new mag catch assemblies right out. Although, the catch is plastic on the inside and super cheap looking. Scary! Anybody want to buy a Hi-Point??!!
Thanks for the info! Hi-point will send (for free) replacement parts and such to your house. I talked to them once about my C9 hamming issues and they sent me out new recoil spring, firing pin, and firing pin spring. Unfortunately I still have jamming with it. They would not acknowledge that there are issues with the magazine itself. One of these days I plan on messing around with it again, and maybe call hi-point to see if another part could be the problem.
I have a Model C 9 Hi Point Luger and I’ve never had any jams at all nor have I had any problem with ammo feeding issues . I’ve shot several hundred rounds through my pistol and I have only 3 magazines that hold 8 rounds and I have shot full metal jackets and hollow points and no jams with either ammo. I have not modified my pistol since the day I bought it. I simply keep it cleaned and properly lubricated to operate like it should. I don’t know why you have the issues you’re having.
I’d agree that the gun is fine. It’s the mags that are causing jams. The mag lips seem thinner than any other gun that I have as well. I might adjust them a bit to see if that helps.
See people get it wrong including hi-point. I have a c9 8 and 10 round. they jammed/nose dive. It’s the back of the feed lips on the magazine not the front, pinch the back in slightly so the cartridge cant raise to high in the back, i did the polish and this and have no problems what so ever. also i suggest you take some good grease and lubricate the contact points between the slide and the polymer handle and the dolls head and chamber it slides into that will fix the gritty-ness on the slide action. hope this helps.
I have had similar issues with my mags for my 995. what helped me was to tap the loaded mags on a table on their back before loading them into the firearm. This seemed to set them better and i havent had any issues since. its similar to what you see in the army movies when they tap there mags on their helmet but it seems to work.
My highpoint c came with an 8 round mag and I brought 3 10 round mags I twined the lips and loaded them and let them sit for about a week and they work fine for me a lot of people don’t like highpoint but I don’t have a problem with owning one
You are right. But you can disassemble the mag and change the angle of the two legs of the magazine follower (you will see them when you get the follower out of the magazine) and fix that problem. Polishing the feed ramp makes the bullet go in easier but does not fix the problem.
they will never acknowledge the problem
I noticed that withing seconds of loadin a High Point mag myself, and it IMMEDIATLY appeared odd. The rounds need to be loaded, and unloaded in the same angle at all time for reliability, and predictability. They should make the shelf that sits on top of the spring shaped to the mag, it would help prevent that but there could be better alternatives.
Push the round down and it will reset at the proper angle. I haven’t had a problem yet.
And it need high c – juice in it lol cheers
I always say you get what you pay for when you pay Chief you pay cheap when you pay more if you pay more
I switched to the magazines from the first generation9mm carbine. Fits perfect, no jamming and 2 extra rounds. My c9 magazine jammed only after 6-7 rounds were loaded
Mine ejects the casing before the next round jams and ends up vertical in the gun. To you and basshound, I called Hi-Point yesterday and the only advice the guy could offer was to slightly bend the lips of the mags outwards with a pair of pliers. Seems like a pretty lame fix to me, but I’ll try it.
How do you polish the ramp? Fine emory cloth? A dealer polished the ramp on my Kel-Tec PF9 when it was jamming and I seem to remember that he may have used that. Sure don’t want to mess anything up!
It’s a spring problem
i too have the exact same problem. i have to hit the back of the slide on the first round to chamber it when the clip is fully loaded. i can tell that the round is about to go in straight but the ring around the primer of the first bullet snags on the ring of the second round and the pressure of the spring keeps it more or less pinned until you force the slide forward. i have the nose dive issue but never had ftf . any magazines recommended? i want to replace the magazine.
What kinda gloves are those
These mags need a follower that stays nose up
Just picked up a c9. Haven’t gone to the range yet. However, I bought 2 extra 8 round mags. It seems very hard to get 8 rounds into the magazines. Is this because the springs are still stiff, or is this an on going problem?
I have polished the ramp and tweek the lips on the mag but still have feeding issues. I’ll try to load the 10 mags with less rounds and I’ve notice if you have a jam/ failure to feed just tap at the bottom of the mag and the round is fed into the barrel. I’ve seen somebody on youtube tap at the bottom and cock the slide. Hope it works. Will call hi point for more help.
I checked the angle of my mags with mags from other autos that I have and see exactly just what you presented in your video. The nose dives seem to be that the alignment of the cartridge in the mag to the feed ramp are not complementary. I agree Hi point needs to fix the mags. When and if this ever happens remains to be seen.
I have two Hi Point c-9’s and I am wondering if I should send them back to hi point and have them replaced?
Bend the springs up, tweak the feed lips and I can almost guarantee you will end the problem
Thanks for that tip. I’ll try that and I’m also going to watch this guy’s video for advice tomorrow while I work on the gun. Hi-Point C9: Tuning The Mags and Feed Ramp, by guntorturetests. (Wouldn’t let me post the link. ??) Haven’t watched it yet, other than the first few minutes, but it’s worth a try. Right off the bat, he shows the difference between his modified mags and the factory fresh ones. Looks good… if I can get them bent just like that! We’ll see and I’ll let you know!
I don’t remember the brand. They were just a basic pair of dirt biking gloves that I got at wal-mart. They worked well for shooting, and keeping hands warm, however.
i can tell you the exact cause of the feeding problem,,,,,, its a freaking hi point
I have 2 C9s and the 995 carbine. Haven’t really had any problems with them but an occasional FTF. Watched YouTube videos on the issue and inspected my magazines closely. The front lips actually CAUSE the rounds to nose dive into the feed ramp as the round is stripped from the mag. (I compared when rounds are stripped from the mag in my Ruger… the front mag lips don’t contact the round at all other than to provide lateral guidance as the round gets chambered… and the "upward angle" of the round being stripped is maintained.) The front lips of the C9 mag are crimped "INWARDS AND DOWNWARDS". Looks like the proper fix is to reduce or eliminate that effect. Some old timer said the gap between the front lips on a 9MM should be .360-.365 in. Personally, I don’t believe the fault lies in either (1) weak magazine spring, or (2) friction of rounds in the mag if >4 rounds are loaded.
You can not single stack 9 mm rounds more then 8. The round is a tapered round. High point made there mags very cheep. But single stack mags on a tapered round is going to be trouble. If the mags was made with a bend like a banana. They would work fine. However, this cannot be done because hi point put the mag in the grip. This is the reason smart gun makers use a double stack for 9mm. Or single stack only 8 or under.
They directly told me over the phone. This mag is meant for the C9 and the CF380. The difference is the setting of the feed lips. 380s are cylindrical, where 9mms are slightly tapered by 1-2 hundredths of an inch. The mag needs to be set. They use stamping tools to make the magazine, and often don’t set the lips before sending out the new parts. It’s a quality control issue. To be fair, most of the stock mags work just fine. We happen to be the FEW users that got improper magazines. That’s all.
I refer you to J DALTON. He is a gunsmith who specializes in the Hi Point & rectifying all of its problems. Check it out. I have 5 Hi Point pistols & have followed what J Dalton said to solve all the problems & basically "finish" the gun. Sincerely, JAMES.
I trade my sig p226 for that hi point let me no friend
it probably jams cause it’s a fucking hi point
9mm rounds are SLIGHTLY tapered from the rim to the neck. Proper feed lip adjustment will ensure they sit properly as the rounds "Banana Stack" in the magazine. I had the same problem. Hi Point sent me 2 new 10 round mags and paid shipping for both of the improperly set magazines to go back. The issue is amazingly simple. The magazine starts life as a hybrid 380/9mm and is SUPPOSED to be set at the factory for either 380ACP or 9mm. This happens often as both use the same magazine. Warranty them.