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  1. Eric Brownell on September 20, 2022 at 8:36 pm

    I picked up a 45 cal a few years s back for 25 bucks the bore is pitted pretty good in the grooves but the lands seem good. it’s my first ever muzzleloader so even if its not all that accurate it’ll be great to learn on and for 25 bucks I couldn’t pass it up

  2. Mcgiiver L on September 20, 2022 at 8:42 pm

    I think you will find that the ,45 caliber has a twist rate of 1:56", not 1:26 or 1:28. I’ve done a lot or load development with mine and find the best bullets are a Lyman .445369 Minie and a .357 125 grain Nosler JHP in a Hornady Blue Sabot.
    Good results in my .58 cal. has been with round balls and also the Lee Modern Minie.

  3. joe bagdal on September 20, 2022 at 8:45 pm

    My bother threaded the .58  breech and machined a stainless steel breech plug to replace the O ring breech plug.  The O ring plug gun shot terrible groups and I had a partial opening of the breech with a hot load.  Now the gun is safe and shoots cloverleafs at 50 yards.  The O ring guns are what put H&R out of business because some users did get hurt.  I recommend to never shoot O ring H&R guns.

  4. 2bit MarketAnarchist on September 20, 2022 at 8:47 pm

    I picked one up in 45 caliber the other day for $30. The breech plug on mine has been welded in shape but instead of using percussion caps it looks roughly the right size for a shotgun primer, however if this is the case I don’t know if the gun will fire as the firing pin is just like yours. I wouldn’t be too sad if that means I just have a wall hanger but I was excited to have something new to throw lead with.

  5. Adam on September 20, 2022 at 8:53 pm

    I have 2 58. and 2 45. all h & r

  6. TheRt1109 on September 20, 2022 at 8:54 pm

    +JohnLeePedimore  how do the ram rods work

  7. Baguio City Dreaming on September 20, 2022 at 8:54 pm

    Not all of the .58 caliber Huntsmans have the simple press in breech plug. Some have a screw in breech plug, the way to tell is the one with screw in breechplug has to blind hole drilled into it across from each other. These are so you can use a spanner wrench to tighten or loosen them for cleaning. In a pinch a set of needle nose pliers will work as well unless someone way over tightened it. Remember you should always after cleaning put a very light coat of anti seaze on the threads then run the plug in until it bottems, give it just a little part turn after that to snug it. As long as you don’t over tighten it you should be fine. These rifles can be found cheap and they are a ton of fun to shoot or first learn on.

  8. The Lucky Pepper on September 20, 2022 at 9:00 pm

    I have one in 58 caliber with a screw in breach would you happen to know what the maximum charge is with a round ball?

  9. STRECHINPICK on September 20, 2022 at 9:01 pm

    I grew up hunting with the .45 H&R and killed a lot of deer with it.

  10. Steve Carey on September 20, 2022 at 9:03 pm

    I just "inherited" one of these from my parents. Hasn’t been fired in probably 35 years. Anyway, do you think those pyrodex tabs and sabot bullets would work okay in one of these?

  11. Daniel Rivers on September 20, 2022 at 9:03 pm

    My father has a 12 Gauge muzzleloader H&R with press in breech plug. He was told by a gunsmith that the gun was recalled because of death and injuries from hang fires. He refused to work on the gun.

  12. BIG HEAD ON ONE WHEEL on September 20, 2022 at 9:03 pm

    Great !!

  13. Jdemers762 on September 20, 2022 at 9:03 pm

    My grandfather left us one of these in .58 caliber. Was always curious about them. Thanks for the video!

  14. sinbad20001 on September 20, 2022 at 9:04 pm

    These are the original inline muzzle loaders, not Knight!

  15. Jay Kidd on September 20, 2022 at 9:06 pm

    If using loose powder how much is enough 90?

  16. The Christian Frontiersman on September 20, 2022 at 9:08 pm

    I recently purchased a Pedersolli Traditional Hawken .54 cal flintlock and love it. It has sparked a love for black powder rifles. I saw an H & R for sale for around 250.00. I think I should buy it. Great video.

  17. Corey Mullins on September 20, 2022 at 9:10 pm

    I have a .45 caliber I bought. I have no idea what to buy to make it fire. Any suggestions

  18. Possum Living on September 20, 2022 at 9:16 pm

    I’m a big fan of those Huntsman rifles. About 30 years ago I had a .58 that had the barrel shortened to ~18 inches. It had the o-ringed breech plug and took a 209 primer. I think the 209 plugs were a factory accessory as opposed to actually coming with the rifle, on these early ones. My breech plug would clear the receiver and could be removed w/o removing the barrel. I used to load it with the Lee full wadcutter Minie and some very hot loads.
    I now have one in .45. It is late production of this early series and has the screw-in 209 breech plug.

  19. Google User on September 20, 2022 at 9:17 pm

    I Have a huntman .45 Cal.

  20. Melton Industries on September 20, 2022 at 9:19 pm

    so the top one at the end the .44 mag was it originally a black powder gun .45 cal with an insert in the breech to make it shoot .44 mag or has the barrel been redone? because on mine I have the Huntsman .45 and it came with an insert in the breech and I couldn’t find a cartridge to fit it so that’s why I’m asking why would that insert be in there?

  21. Brett Duffy on September 20, 2022 at 9:19 pm

    non ffl

  22. Joe Sanders on September 20, 2022 at 9:22 pm

    What type of powder does the 1971 58 cal use? I’ve had my 58 cal for 10 yrs nd never shot it, no stores sale the ball size where I live

  23. Jeff Sartain on September 20, 2022 at 9:24 pm

    Great video.

  24. James Holt on September 20, 2022 at 9:25 pm

    Thanks for sharing ..good job on your presentation..!..

  25. USMC-ROCH on September 20, 2022 at 9:27 pm

    My Dad gave me his .58 CAL H&R WAY BACK IN THE LATE 80"S , She is a head turner at the range.

  26. jimswww on September 20, 2022 at 9:28 pm

    In 1985 I went shooting with the .58 cal shown in this video. After firing the gun 4 to 5 times the percussion cap failed to fire the charge, we removed the cap, used a nipple pick fired the gun. This happened a second time, so we waited about a minute, as before, to make sure there wasn’t a hang fire. I opened the breach to remove the cap and the breach plug blew out of the back of the gun. It went through the standing breach and into my right hand causing significant damage. After 7 surgeries, including skin, nerve and tendon grafts, I am still able to use my hand. The discharge could have been caused by a static charge. I can send anyone a picture of my hand as proof that this is a very dangerous design and anyone who owns this gun should have a slave pin installed by a gunsmith.

  27. David Rivero on September 20, 2022 at 9:28 pm

    Used to borrow a friends .58 & i believe it to be the first production removable plug, way interesting then in the 70’s, as a newbie bp shooter. I’ll call him lol

  28. JohnLeePedimore on September 20, 2022 at 9:32 pm

    From what I’ve read the max charge on these is 100 grains.The newer model Huntsmans in .50 cal. will take 150 grains.

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