H&R Revolvers: Gun Tech Tip #2: Survival Guns for SHTF

H&R Revolvers: Gun Tech Tip #2: Survival Guns for SHTF

This video discusses the various styles of revolvers manufactured by H&R during the period beginning around 1900 through the 1980’s including the final production run of these revolvers by NEF. The four main styles of revolvers produced by H&R included the solid frame, the top break, the swing out cylinder, and the old western pattern (modified solid frame). These revolvers were constructed with three forms of lock work over the years. The first form of lock work was the free wheeling cylinder type demonstrated in the video with the “American Double Action” and early 922 models. This pattern of lock work was modified in the 1960’s and 1970’s to incorporate a new cylinder locking bolt which eliminated the free wheeling cylinder. This modification was present in the late model 622 shown in the video. All types of revolvers were later modified to incorporate a modern type of hammer block safety as shown in the 926, 733 and NEF production guns.
The video discusses which parts interchange between the various patterns of revolvers and identifies parts commonly missing from used guns.

50 Comments

  1. Appa Mtnculture on September 18, 2022 at 8:36 pm

    I have an H&R Bulldog with octagon barrel in nickel like the first one in this video, but mine is 32 rimfire and not 32 S&W. Mine has the traditional hammer look.

  2. Michael W Kohler on September 18, 2022 at 8:36 pm

    I have a HR model 949 22 cal revolver The Forty Niner. It does not have the transfer bar ignition/safety system. Were all 949 Forty Niners made with the Transfer bar safety system?

  3. kampuskop on September 18, 2022 at 8:36 pm

    I recently won a 32 S&W caliber, Premier top break H&R revolver…… It is nickle plated and has large, fancy lettering on the face side of the barrel that states H&R Premier in bold lettering, with "Premier" in quotations. I have never seen one marked up that way.. What would have made this top break a "premier" model? How was it different from a standard model? I assume that maybe more attention was given to the finish, but beyond that, would there have been any differences?

    It also has the caliber markings on the other side of the barrel…. "32 S&W ctge"… I assume it is a latter model and able to shoot modern, smokeless rounds…. Is this correct?

  4. James Fetterman on September 18, 2022 at 8:36 pm

    how to lighten the double action on old top break

  5. Nick Dannunzio on September 18, 2022 at 8:38 pm

    I have a 999 -6" purchased in the early 2000s… 9 shot, 22 LR… Top break, auto ejector and target model, very accurate, I also have 4 speed-loaders with belt mount pouches… Love this in the field, as I have the speed loaders filled with a variety of ammo, bird shot. hollow points, solid tips, stingers, match, and can easily change out as needed… my carry cylinder has in order, 2 bird shot, 2 hollow points, 2 solid tips and a stinger… (try doing that with your glock)… I do this order of ammo with all my revolvers…

  6. Scott Tilson on September 18, 2022 at 8:38 pm

    I have an H&R 686 12inch barrel. There are no videos on this gun. Maybe I have a one of a kind.

  7. grr on September 18, 2022 at 8:41 pm

    You have a wonderful collection of H&Rs. I love your 676 cowboy shooter.
    I purchased my sole H&R way back 1975 while in college. It’s a 922 model and it’s still going strong. Very accurate guns. Thanks for the video history.

  8. alan Rogs on September 18, 2022 at 8:42 pm

    32 S&W is 32 S&W long?

  9. Benjamin Wilkin on September 18, 2022 at 8:42 pm

    I looked at my 922 and it has just a single leaf(?) spring in the grip (also one piece grip). Does anyone know how this would date it? Also, the serial number on the front of the grip has no letters in it.

  10. rjmprod on September 18, 2022 at 8:42 pm

    I have a 686 22/22mag case hardened 7" model has 2 .22lr cylinders and 1 mag cylinder it is in great shape fires great and is much more accurate than I taught it would be, it was my dads.

  11. Darren Roberts on September 18, 2022 at 8:44 pm

    Have a R73 with 6 in barrel. Just picked up a 2.5 in barrel to swap out. How is barrel attached?

  12. Thorburn J Schwegler on September 18, 2022 at 8:45 pm

    Thanks for the reload tip, I have a model 642 .22 wmrf

  13. New Shaman on September 18, 2022 at 8:45 pm

    I got a 1931 H&R 9 shot .22 I never carry it with 8 rounds, always 9. Just don’t drop it ! But if you do carry one with 8, leave a spent cartridge under the hammer. If it’s empty you risk breaking it.

  14. bl.y on September 18, 2022 at 8:46 pm

    nice revolver love free wheeling

  15. Triangle Detecting on September 18, 2022 at 8:47 pm

    I might be wrong but you can rest the hammer down between 2 rounds and the cylinder will not spin because the rim of the case hits the firing pin, atlest on the 38sw Victor model I have here.

  16. Sofa-king-funny on September 18, 2022 at 8:47 pm
  17. Lisa Desposito on September 18, 2022 at 8:52 pm

    I have a model 622 22lr. Where can I get a pin for cylinder. Is anything interchangeable?

  18. Joe Jon on September 18, 2022 at 8:54 pm

    Very well done video.
    Informative as well.
    Thank You. Can you speak to 22 Special Top Break ?

  19. Larry Eby on September 18, 2022 at 8:57 pm

    Have a 38 S&W cal top break, 6” barrel, serial number 482xxx. Sixth variation large frame. Think from about 1925. The grips are badly chipped. They are two screw full size, black Bakelite, with H&R logo. I can’t find replacements anywhere. Was able to get new sear from Numrich Arms. Suggestions?

  20. stripey tawney on September 18, 2022 at 8:58 pm

    question, how interchangeable are the cylinders? I see down in the comments you say old/new style.
    if I have a few old style cylinders, do they swap or should a gunsmith be needed to time them up?

  21. Harold Hodgkins on September 18, 2022 at 8:58 pm

    You didn’t talk about the model 199?

  22. Bryan Mise on September 18, 2022 at 8:59 pm

    Great info. Thanks.

  23. steely danny b. on September 18, 2022 at 9:00 pm

    Yes it was and loads of fun paid 300.00$ for it at a pawn shop Kinda regret selling it but enjoyed it for 4 or 5 years anyhow Have a Blessed New Year

  24. Dale Bronniman on September 18, 2022 at 9:00 pm

    Model 925 .38 S&W 1 3/4 inch barrel top break with AE serial number

  25. FingerAngle on September 18, 2022 at 9:00 pm

    Nice collection. I just did a short video on one.

  26. Zack K on September 18, 2022 at 9:05 pm

    Just got a 732 with the flip out wheel! So excited to wear my cowboy hat and go choot me some rattlers!

  27. LOREN Reece on September 18, 2022 at 9:06 pm

    Video too dark.

  28. Popeye Andy on September 18, 2022 at 9:06 pm

    I have a H&R 929 that the hammer will not stay cocked when trying to shoot single action. It works fine in double action though. Still searching for guidance…

  29. John Burnett on September 18, 2022 at 9:07 pm

    I realize this is an older video, but I recently picked up a model 622. Your video makes me wonder which of the .22 Magnum cylinders are compatible with that gun?

  30. Possum Living on September 18, 2022 at 9:09 pm

    Thank you for this video. I’m always happy to see H&R and other "second tier" American revolver manufacturers getting some recognition.
    I do have one comment: carrying with an empty chamber doesn’t really work with a free spin revolver because there is nothing to prevent the cylinder advancing to the next chamber… except the rim of the next cartridge. I carry them full up, with the hammer all the way down between chambers. That way the rims of two adjacent cartridges interfere with the firing pin, thus impeding rotation. Still not as safe as the later actions, but it is as safe as you can get with a loaded free spin revolver.

  31. TwentyFifth DUI on September 18, 2022 at 9:10 pm

    So the Iver Johnson/US Revolver solid frame revolvers were very, very similar to these black powder H&Rs, and in particular they all allowed the cylinder to spin while closed. With the Ivers that means it is sort of impossible to keep the gun safe by carrying on an empty chamber because it might get jostled and the cylinder could spin to a loaded chamber. The solution with Ivers is to load them all and with the hammer on that little quarter notch "safety" notch CAREFULLY, with barrel in safe direction, spin cylinder to EXACTLY between two cylinders, then pull the tiny lever right behind the trigger to drop the hammer between cartridges, which holds the cylinder in place so that it cannot spin and is completely safe. However I am not sure that will work on a 6 shot as there may not be enough space between the cartridge rims for the hammer to go in between. Works with the 5 shot Iver 1900 though.

  32. Nick Ferriolo on September 18, 2022 at 9:13 pm

    Will a model 622 cylinders fit the model 623. Great video man.

  33. Bernard Daly on September 18, 2022 at 9:16 pm

    Great collection Bernie

  34. Carl Dean on September 18, 2022 at 9:17 pm

    I have a 9 shot .22 H&R

  35. Donn Holcomb on September 18, 2022 at 9:19 pm

    Thanks for the video, I have a 922 made I have a 922 made in 1976, also had a western 9 shot 22 lr, it was stolen a few years back. Been watching for another one but haven’t ran across any in my area.

  36. Rich Larsen on September 18, 2022 at 9:19 pm

    Great video. I have the 622 with the four inch barrel. I’d like to change out the grips. The large frame models all appear to share the same grip size…except the wraparound type. Is that correct? Thanks!

  37. Jeff Wilson on September 18, 2022 at 9:22 pm

    Looking for assistance for my H & R model 999 top break revolver. The extractor does not return back to the cylinder after cleaning the firearm then returning the cylinder to the frame and latching onto the cylinder latch. Picture available if that helps. Any insight appreciated as to how to have the extractor seat back down onto the cylinder. Love shooting this revolver.

  38. Quentin Baucom on September 18, 2022 at 9:22 pm

    I just put a 923 and cant find much info on it. Can you give me some tips or on it?

  39. Ben Flatt on September 18, 2022 at 9:24 pm

    What about the 929

  40. Ri Ley on September 18, 2022 at 9:24 pm

    I just got an H&R for a killer deal at a GunShow 🙂 its a 9shot 22lr. Model R92. Id love to hear if you have anymore information on these! Im absolutely loving this Revolver

  41. Carl Dean on September 18, 2022 at 9:24 pm

    What is the Flat barrel model H&R Can I find one today? Please Message me on FB Carl Dean

  42. Amy Buxton on September 18, 2022 at 9:25 pm

    I recently acquired my late grandfather’s H and R 922 4"barrel. I would love to know more about it and I am looking for a holster.

  43. 6'6150IQWhiteBear on September 18, 2022 at 9:26 pm

    Nice collection!

  44. Kenny DeFranco on September 18, 2022 at 9:26 pm

    Good and bad general info. You can’t grab a hammer and bring it to loading cock and call it a hammerless gun. I don’t know what idiot coined that term but every gun is either hammer or striker fire. That first cock raises the hammer off the primer and you carry full capacity. Some idiots try to argue cowboys only carried 5 rounds in their SAA. That’s a lie. On those you have safe, load, advance, and full cock. You also don’t remove the cylinder to load a revolver that has a loading port. Mine was made in 1898. I’ve fired about 30k rounds thru it and only removed the cylinder for cleaning. Other than that little misinformation great video

  45. Davey Bass on September 18, 2022 at 9:27 pm

    Awesome!

  46. FingerAngle on September 18, 2022 at 9:27 pm

    I have a 925 break top in .38 s&w, and a 1903 break top in .38 s&w.

  47. Bryant Butler on September 18, 2022 at 9:29 pm

    Can the .32 s&wL swing out shoot the s&w mags?

  48. Mk Shffr on September 18, 2022 at 9:30 pm

    Wish I could afford to get my 999 refurbished. Dad taught me to shoot with that sweet revolver.

  49. Newtire on September 18, 2022 at 9:32 pm

    I have a 586 in .22 magnum and it is one accurate revolver. I love the adjustable sight. I have accumulated a number of these H & R’s, mostly in .22 cal. with a pair in .32 S&W long and one NEF in .32 mag. Had a 586 with a 7-1/2” barrel in .32 H & R but had to sell it and a few others in between jobs. Between these and Iver Johnson, they keep the 4473 form printers humming. Only thing that comes anywhere close are those Heritage revolvers but their alloy frames don’t hold a candle to these old steel beauties. I, for one would like to see some shooting videos. I appreciate all the research you’ve put into these.

  50. steely danny b. on September 18, 2022 at 9:32 pm

    Thanks for the nice & very informative video .I bought a model 603 22 magnum 6 shot slab barrel in almost new cond.with original box.Its the only one I ever saw they must have been pretty rare was accurate .Who ever owned it painted the front sight white for tired old eyes like mine lol Loved it but ammo was costly & hard to find.

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