Star Pistol-Carbines: Model MMS and Model MB

Star Pistol-Carbines: Model MMS and Model MB

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Star produced 1911-style pistols in a wide variety of calibers and configurations for more than 50 years, including several models with shoulder stocks. Two of the later such models were the MMS and MB. These were standard 5 inch barreled pistols shipped with wooden combination holster stocks and three magazines – one 8-round, one 16-round, and one quite long 32-round. The MMS was chambered for .30 Mauser (7.63x25mm), and 1,174 of them were made between 1971 and 1985. The MB was in 9mm Parabellum, and 1,757 were made in two runs, 1956-1960 and 1972-1975. Both patterns have been added to the list of stocked pistols exempt from NFA requirements, happily.

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50 Comments

  1. Lazarus Long on September 28, 2022 at 8:06 pm

    Hey! Dude who watches Forgotten Weapons and mods Fallout 4: You know what you need to do!!!



  2. Collin McLaren on September 28, 2022 at 8:08 pm

    Those magazines could be lethal weapons in their own right. Just jab it into a guy’s stomach repeatedly until he’s subdued.



  3. Calamus Gladio Fortior on September 28, 2022 at 8:10 pm

    It would be interesting to see a field accuracy test comparing the pistol fired with and without the stock. I wonder how much difference it really made.



  4. AstrraTV on September 28, 2022 at 8:13 pm

    Looks way better than the C96.



  5. XtreeM FaiL on September 28, 2022 at 8:15 pm

    Imagine mag like that in a 80’s action movie.
    30min. none stop shooting.



  6. Reuben Dobbs on September 28, 2022 at 8:15 pm

    I had a 9mm parabelum model in the 80s. Lovely bit of kit. Big frame but a stable shooter. It was very reliable and I prefured it to Browning hi power we were issued.



  7. Joe Guzman on September 28, 2022 at 8:19 pm

    On the back where the slide and frame come together you can see the good machining , like the Colt ,some New Remington 1911s have a big Gap



  8. Juan Ramirez Gonzalez on September 28, 2022 at 8:20 pm

    #GunJesuskult makes a lot sense now right



  9. Don G on September 28, 2022 at 8:21 pm

    Did Colt ever make these using the 1911? Thanks Gun jesus



  10. Soe Gaard on September 28, 2022 at 8:22 pm

    The c96 needs a long mag like this



  11. Russel Sellick on September 28, 2022 at 8:23 pm

    The 32 round magazines didn’t work at all well and as I recall the 8 round held 9.



  12. Z P on September 28, 2022 at 8:24 pm

    that’s one helluva clipazine!



  13. Rafael Bucio Jr. on September 28, 2022 at 8:24 pm

    I own two Star model BM.



  14. Бekrija on September 28, 2022 at 8:25 pm

    Oh so this is the Star 45. From Far Cry 2, I always thought it was like a 1911 but with no trademarks



  15. Ratched45 on September 28, 2022 at 8:26 pm

    All I can think of is S.T.A.R.S from resident evil



  16. Kongou Bongo on September 28, 2022 at 8:26 pm

    Abolish the ATF.



  17. Ryan McCallum on September 28, 2022 at 8:28 pm

    Have Auto Ordnance make these in .45ACP, then we’ll talk.



  18. Saddam Hussain on September 28, 2022 at 8:30 pm

    What’s price in this gun



  19. JCK on September 28, 2022 at 8:30 pm

    Why are we europeans constantly making carbines out of pistols
    did that shit with the Luger, the C96 and currently still do it with the Beretta Rafika and also the wierd things the spanish did



  20. Grenz45 on September 28, 2022 at 8:30 pm

    Iver Johnson still sells a 1911 Carbine. 16 inch BBL I believe.



  21. Matthew Dobbs on September 28, 2022 at 8:30 pm

    Great video. Love the Star stocked pistols.



  22. CRKT Ritual on September 28, 2022 at 8:32 pm

    I like Ian….he seems nice 😊



  23. Michael Lewis on September 28, 2022 at 8:36 pm

    Stocking guns in stocks in stockings wrapped around the stock of the tree for a well stocked Christmas; we’ll throw in some company stocks too! We have plenty of stock! Just don’t stalk Santa around ok?



  24. JCK on September 28, 2022 at 8:36 pm

    7:46 i just realised the handbook had german writing on it
    considering that Francisco Franco liked Hitler alot we can assume that german was a popular second language in spain back then (and still is)



  25. Fredboat on September 28, 2022 at 8:37 pm

    Good story and history, Thanks.



  26. oscar gustavo arcos ruiz on September 28, 2022 at 8:40 pm

    It would be great to see these guns in the range



  27. Philip Freeman on September 28, 2022 at 8:43 pm

    Star & later firestar stainless are good mini 1911 .



  28. PedroThePanda64 on September 28, 2022 at 8:43 pm

    Y’all keep fucking with me and imma pull up with the Super Extendo Clipazine Gat™



  29. BennieBoi on September 28, 2022 at 8:43 pm

    Did he not mention these are full auto?



  30. Calvin McClory on September 28, 2022 at 8:43 pm

    wait, I have a star, and its not a star B, and wikipidia says its a MB. Mine is not a carbine. Its a shorter length barrel. Is there a MB carbine vs MB pistol?



  31. scott haddad on September 28, 2022 at 8:45 pm

    So are you saying at the end of this vid that any pistol with a similar set-up is exempt or just the ones manufactured by Star? With all of the Hubbub about pistol braces lately, I just have to wonder exactly what is WHAT in the mind of the ATF?????



  32. Jason Cornell on September 28, 2022 at 8:45 pm

    Meh not in .45 or Best Millimetre



  33. rem ko on September 28, 2022 at 8:46 pm

    Ginormas… sounds Ianish to me 🙃



  34. Scott JS on September 28, 2022 at 8:46 pm

    Me wondering why this wasn’t a mag in MW19… This the perfect kind of stupid I want to see in video games….



  35. Sasir on September 28, 2022 at 8:46 pm

    8:14 wow, that’s practical



  36. Rob Sorgdrager on September 28, 2022 at 8:47 pm

    I remember back in the day when my uncle deer hunted with a 357 mag with a butt stock…..now that’s illegal. The butt stock not pistol hunting…..yet.



  37. Tony Horner on September 28, 2022 at 8:47 pm

    Authoritarian regime’s love these sort of weapons.



  38. Bruce Hewat on September 28, 2022 at 8:48 pm

    Let’s see one in a two gun match. One gun, plus stock =two guns?



  39. garald tao on September 28, 2022 at 8:49 pm

    The stock looks similar to that of a Hi Power’s. I wonder why the stocked Star weren’t as popular as the Inglis, not that a Stocked Hi Power was ever that popular to begin with.



  40. TjDolHaus86 on September 28, 2022 at 8:49 pm

    Have you ever come across a Springfield Omega pistol? Interesting gun built to suit German gun laws at the time which stated 1 pistol per person but it came with interchangeable internals that could use 9x19mm, 10mm Auto, .38 Super, .38 Wadcutter or .45ACP. Uses a 1911 frame with a custom long barrel/slide but with linkless internals like a Sig P-series.



  41. RATO_Ch on September 28, 2022 at 8:51 pm

    Absolute S T E N D O



  42. MrShtbrick on September 28, 2022 at 8:52 pm

    I’m going to predict that these will get sold with a surprisingly high price at the auction.



  43. Jay Felsberg on September 28, 2022 at 8:53 pm

    So TECHNICALLY you could use 7.62mm Tokarev?????????



  44. Rey Perps on September 28, 2022 at 8:55 pm

    Mp1911 from phantom forces



  45. Cutie Pyro on September 28, 2022 at 8:59 pm

    these handguns were in far cry 2



  46. Wade on September 28, 2022 at 9:02 pm

    How the hell did I miss this video. One of the coolest yet. This Is what we needed in WW1 in 9mm



  47. Fhhg Gcxf on September 28, 2022 at 9:04 pm

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    سعر مسدس 9 ستار قصير



  48. Motovelocidad rock (turtle moto R) on September 28, 2022 at 9:04 pm

    beautiful



  49. David Bock on September 28, 2022 at 9:05 pm

    I want to get one of the 32 round magazines for my Star BM. Just because.



  50. Julio Verdin on September 28, 2022 at 9:05 pm

    Why wrong? Thanks again Ian for your job…sure requires lot of work behind. All my support to continue