The Rise & Fall Of Honor Defense & The Honor Guard 9mm Pistol.

The Rise & Fall Of Honor Defense & The Honor Guard 9mm Pistol.

Today we take a look at what happened to Honor Defense, a modern day gun company. So you want to start a gun company?

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  1. TheF5Refresh on April 27, 2023 at 3:45 am

    Excellent video! I had wondered what had happened to them. I had the privilege to meet with Gary to interview him about the history and company right before Covid. Actually got to see and video the Pro9. Maybe we will see them again.

  2. Richard Barr on April 27, 2023 at 3:47 am

    Being left handed this was a dream come true; an ambi single stack. I sent it in for the upgrade and it came back unaltered. I gave Gary constructive input about setting up his quality department after that. After a year of zero ammo and the release of high capacity single stacks I reluctantly let it go. I hope it was adopted into a good home. Thank you Gary Ramey for the effort!

  3. Kenneth Hartline on April 27, 2023 at 3:48 am

    Sir, I have an Honor Guard and like it. I have been having difficulty locating extra color frames. Any info would help me locate some would be helpful.

  4. alex hackman on April 27, 2023 at 3:50 am

    Haha I made it into a YouTube video. Thank you for the video.

  5. S leigh on April 27, 2023 at 3:52 am

    The pro 9 is out ..just under savage

  6. AH! Why is there poop in your mouth on April 27, 2023 at 3:59 am

    You guys want Comedy? Watch Sootch’s video and READ the comments on this gun…

  7. Ivan Nieves on April 27, 2023 at 4:03 am

    Which companies were that? I never heard of us security companies carrying an empty chamber

  8. Chad Lumpkin on April 27, 2023 at 4:03 am

    Thank you for a thorough breakdown of the Honor Guard. I had heard they used feedback from law enforcement and military, but I wasn’t aware of the specifics of what changes were made.

  9. GraniteJeep C3 on April 27, 2023 at 4:05 am

    They were great company just not make any difference or advantage over Kahr or Shield…shoulda done a 9mm double stack and beat everyone else by years..
    I worked security including armored and never ever carry a small single stack like this plus no level 2 plus holsters for this at all

  10. Lorenzo Alistaire on April 27, 2023 at 4:06 am

    Clover what?

  11. betterthanyourmom on April 27, 2023 at 4:06 am

    I was always interested in these because they were based in my state.

  12. CLOUTCHASER on April 27, 2023 at 4:06 am

    It’s just a shield but less reliable 😂 I love the fact it’s American owned but come in Guy’s

  13. Norm Bittner on April 27, 2023 at 4:08 am

    Looks like they have sold their design to Savage and is now the Savage Stance

  14. Jon Haugen on April 27, 2023 at 4:09 am

    I think Savage baught them out. Just saw a picture on Graham Baates channel.

  15. Joe Blow on April 27, 2023 at 4:12 am

    I was never interested in it I could see the need if somebody doesn’t have the income very sad to see any Firearms manufacturer go under

  16. My Email on April 27, 2023 at 4:13 am

    I have one did not know of this issue. I wonder how I get the voluntary recall done now they are out of business. This makes me scared to carry it. I guess it will be fine in the nightstand.

  17. Not RightMeow on April 27, 2023 at 4:15 am

    I bought an early one. I later got a long slide, which is something that I really wanted. The only complaints were the smooth slide serrations, and the loss in confidence due to the safety drop issue. I did get the slides upgraded, but I soon stopped carrying it. I’ll probably keep it for now, but I’ve moved on to a different EDC.

  18. Ken Greenwood on April 27, 2023 at 4:17 am

    Thanks for the insight on the unfortunate "Fall" from the market. (Just as the Chinese Communist Party intended!?!?!)


    Four years later and I cannot get a response from Gary Ramey AND the Honor Defense website is no longer…

    So I have a gun I am concerned to carry, or sell to my left handed friends!

    > Is this upgraded part available? I could install it I imagine, but need it to do so!!

    > Does Coonan have this part?

    I am totally bummed as it is a great gun with well thought features for CCW use (the slide stop levers ARE a bit small, but you will never apply them by mistake!!).

    Any ideas??

  19. gary ramey on April 27, 2023 at 4:20 am

    Thanks ACP!
    We are very proud of our design and I still carry/shoot ole #2 every day.
    A number of firearm execs (that can carry any pistol they want) still carry theirs.

    As for our issues, it was parts availability.
    Large gun companies swooped in and bought the capacity.

    The website was not really an issue, the store was closed out early in our startup time due to financial discrimination by the credit card processor.
    When we were alerted to the issue, we responded with a new site (using woo commerce) within 10 days.
    The GA AG RINO would not pursue it.
    We switched and no problems afterwards.

    As for safety, the firearm passed all DOJ and SAAMI/ANSI drop and jar off tests.
    The fact is that all firearms will discharge if mis-handled, dropped a certain way etc.
    Lawsuits are common in the firearm industry
    Oddly enough, one Youtuber struck an HD 27 times with a hammer to make it go off…..
    Then showed the 27th strike and said it was unsafe.
    I think that youtuber is unsafe!

    Why don’t you hear about that with alot of guns?
    Answer is easy….they advertise alot and send free product to Influencers.

    We look forward to watching the design grow and appreciate all of our customers.

  20. Andrea Whalen on April 27, 2023 at 4:23 am

    any body sell the frames these days?

  21. Dave Dunlop on April 27, 2023 at 4:25 am

    I own one and carry it everywhere. Love it. Gary, If I ever win the lottery I’ll finance your comeback!

  22. Nddd Bjss on April 27, 2023 at 4:25 am

    I had and carried that guy for a while the magazine fell out all the time low capacity heavy with a good trigger

  23. Critical_libertarian on April 27, 2023 at 4:25 am

    Just to clarify Patrick Roberts resigned from TFB over that debacle. At least that’s what Patrick stated.

  24. Impulsecontrol on April 27, 2023 at 4:25 am

    If I’m looking to purchase one how do I know if it was upgraded to be drop safe?

  25. Harleyboy65 on April 27, 2023 at 4:27 am

    I saw today that Savage probably took these over. Recently some of the Honor Guard pistols with the stand-off frame showed up at a local pawn shop, of course the price was ridiculous. Scheels carried them, but stopped and closed them out for 300.

  26. cobalt flame on April 27, 2023 at 4:28 am

    I still carry mine to this day. Its been bumped like crazy, but never gone off without intention since i bought it new years ago. I don’t think it had the fix done to it, and i never sent it in. I trust my life to it, and almost had to employ it recently.

  27. Dean of Fishing on April 27, 2023 at 4:29 am

    Thank you for a truthful review/video. A lot of times when things like this happen in the firearm business, it just gets ignored. It reminds of when something bad or embarrassing happens in whichever political party one supports, it just gets ignored. Thank you for a factual account of what happened with Honor Defense.

  28. Don Blake on April 27, 2023 at 4:31 am

    Very sad!

  29. john anderson on April 27, 2023 at 4:37 am

    first im hearing of this. looks like a sheild.

  30. S leigh on April 27, 2023 at 4:41 am

    I know how it was ruined … A gun company built a gun that isn’t drop safe ? Lol common this gun was just another single stack with no new ideas is why there gone.. There’s reason sccy sells so many guns there 169

  31. Margaret Burnham on April 27, 2023 at 4:43 am

    Can you tell us when they did the upgrade. I’m gonna be buying One of these to where in an ankle holster or inner thigh, depending on what I’m wearing obviously. I want to assure that I buy a pistol with a date that shows that it has been manufactured with these changes before I purchase one