I believe the CCP is made by Umarex, no? There’s a way of telling by some stamp on the barrel I believe. Maybe they’re making it in the Walther factory now. (Not Umarex factory)?
steady blokeon April 25, 2023 at 3:52 am
Gun review: It sucked, a pain in the ass
Michael Johnon April 25, 2023 at 3:58 am
The m2 is very comfortable in hand. I enjoy the ergos quite a bit. I will always trust walther, but these in particular I worry about. Will continue for your follow up
Joshua Brackeon April 25, 2023 at 4:03 am
The fact that Umarex owns Walther is terrible, they’d be alot better placed in the market if that weren’t the case. Why the hell haven’t they updated the PPS yet? Boggles the mind, man.
Also I’m sorry but the plus naming convention is really stupid. Especially because S&W already has the convention on the Shield but made it a micro compact. Why couldn’t Walther do that? It seems like an anemic upgrade. It’d be alot smarter to pour that R&D into upgrading the PPS to accept a double stack magazine.
Ronn Stoneon April 25, 2023 at 4:08 am
I have shot all three models and have found the M2+ to be a more substantial pistol except for the sights. I purchased the M2+ and immediately replaced the sights. Pistol performs as advertised and reminds me a lot of the H&K P7 M8 I once owned being that they are both gas operated.
fisgibgbobberon April 25, 2023 at 4:10 am
The actual Walther rear sight is windage adjustable by loosening a screw. That may explain why the slot is looser.
Marvin Camp jron April 25, 2023 at 4:11 am
I like your review but you really need to back the mic off a inch or so cheer’s
The ArmzMenon April 25, 2023 at 4:14 am
Pretty surprised you’re actually giving this model a second look. Had no.idea they made the improvements on it. I still think this model should’ve been a combination of the pps m2 and the ccp. Pps m2 internals with the CCP ergonomics and an optic cut would’ve made it a much better option.👍
MDpolo Gun Channelon April 25, 2023 at 4:15 am
I’ve been curious about this pistol. Looking forward to your shooting impressions. Thank you for the video.
Shaz aradon April 25, 2023 at 4:19 am
I wonder if the trigger and reliability was improved, my main gripes with the M2 I had before. I didnt like the originals at all
Richard Colligonon April 25, 2023 at 4:20 am
Well it’s a good thing you didn’t bad mouth Glock, you would have been banished to the land of OZ.
maxximus2012on April 25, 2023 at 4:20 am
Needs a version without the safety
Channel Cat Chaseron April 25, 2023 at 4:22 am
I have one Walther pistol ….PPQ 5" and should unload it because it is taking up space.
el tenda's channelon April 25, 2023 at 4:22 am
Interesting video
Deadeye Dannyon April 25, 2023 at 4:23 am
these are underrated.. nice shooting and accurate.
Keanon Gilliamon April 25, 2023 at 4:26 am
God forbid if you say something bad about a Walther. Can’t wait to see your shooting review
jackinyoubabyon April 25, 2023 at 4:27 am
As far as reliability I would not trust my M2. It has had way too many malfunctions. Mostly stovepipes and failure to feeds. I love the ergonomics, the accuracy and the size of the pistol but don’t trust it with my life at all. Hopefully the M2+ is much improved but I’d be hesitant to buy one with the issues my M2 has had.
Hungry like a Wolfon April 25, 2023 at 4:28 am
The original version with the take down tool was a turd. Not reliable and definitely not quality.
fmart3315on April 25, 2023 at 4:32 am
I’m looking forward to picking up a 9mm ccp m2+, I want to see if a fixed barrel is better than a tilting barrel
First-Name Last-Nameon April 25, 2023 at 4:39 am
The M2 is piece of crap. Constant stove pipes. Also the red spring grommet (which you see when you disassemble) always breaks. I had to have Walther send me a handful of replacements. We finally got rid of the gun. Don’t bother with the M2+ if it has the same type of red grommets.
Arms Directoryon April 25, 2023 at 4:40 am
Umarex owns Walther, so… As a brand, I’ve never had a reliability problem with Walther. I own the CCP M2, and it’s been a good gun, but it’s really just a range toy or trainer. It’s not my carry gun.
Condition0on April 25, 2023 at 4:41 am
CCP 🇨🇳 is a terrible name for a pistol
Nathan Manleyon April 25, 2023 at 4:41 am
My wife has one of the m2 models and it’s not bad for her in 380
thanks
I believe the CCP is made by Umarex, no? There’s a way of telling by some stamp on the barrel I believe. Maybe they’re making it in the Walther factory now. (Not Umarex factory)?
Gun review: It sucked, a pain in the ass
The m2 is very comfortable in hand. I enjoy the ergos quite a bit. I will always trust walther, but these in particular I worry about. Will continue for your follow up
The fact that Umarex owns Walther is terrible, they’d be alot better placed in the market if that weren’t the case. Why the hell haven’t they updated the PPS yet? Boggles the mind, man.
Also I’m sorry but the plus naming convention is really stupid. Especially because S&W already has the convention on the Shield but made it a micro compact. Why couldn’t Walther do that? It seems like an anemic upgrade. It’d be alot smarter to pour that R&D into upgrading the PPS to accept a double stack magazine.
I have shot all three models and have found the M2+ to be a more substantial pistol except for the sights. I purchased the M2+ and immediately replaced the sights. Pistol performs as advertised and reminds me a lot of the H&K P7 M8 I once owned being that they are both gas operated.
The actual Walther rear sight is windage adjustable by loosening a screw. That may explain why the slot is looser.
I like your review but you really need to back the mic off a inch or so cheer’s
Pretty surprised you’re actually giving this model a second look. Had no.idea they made the improvements on it. I still think this model should’ve been a combination of the pps m2 and the ccp. Pps m2 internals with the CCP ergonomics and an optic cut would’ve made it a much better option.👍
I’ve been curious about this pistol. Looking forward to your shooting impressions. Thank you for the video.
I wonder if the trigger and reliability was improved, my main gripes with the M2 I had before. I didnt like the originals at all
Well it’s a good thing you didn’t bad mouth Glock, you would have been banished to the land of OZ.
Needs a version without the safety
I have one Walther pistol ….PPQ 5" and should unload it because it is taking up space.
Interesting video
these are underrated.. nice shooting and accurate.
God forbid if you say something bad about a Walther. Can’t wait to see your shooting review
As far as reliability I would not trust my M2. It has had way too many malfunctions. Mostly stovepipes and failure to feeds. I love the ergonomics, the accuracy and the size of the pistol but don’t trust it with my life at all. Hopefully the M2+ is much improved but I’d be hesitant to buy one with the issues my M2 has had.
The original version with the take down tool was a turd. Not reliable and definitely not quality.
I’m looking forward to picking up a 9mm ccp m2+, I want to see if a fixed barrel is better than a tilting barrel
The M2 is piece of crap. Constant stove pipes. Also the red spring grommet (which you see when you disassemble) always breaks. I had to have Walther send me a handful of replacements. We finally got rid of the gun. Don’t bother with the M2+ if it has the same type of red grommets.
Umarex owns Walther, so… As a brand, I’ve never had a reliability problem with Walther. I own the CCP M2, and it’s been a good gun, but it’s really just a range toy or trainer. It’s not my carry gun.
CCP 🇨🇳 is a terrible name for a pistol
My wife has one of the m2 models and it’s not bad for her in 380
Easy to rack for about 3 mags, then not so much.