1. Curonian Viking on May 10, 2023 at 4:10 am

    Took ma a while to figure the garbage magazines they make for these great rifles!! Love the 22mag, and since I figured the issue, it’s a great fun gun!

  2. gnarshread on May 10, 2023 at 4:10 am

    Hey Nutn! It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on optics for small caliber rifles. I absolutely love shooting 22lr and have a bunch of different optics on different rifles. The annoying thing is the best "small caliber" scope I have used under $300 is a crappy old bsa I robbed off an air rifle. I dont mind investing in good optics but its hard to justify when its for my fun gun and not something more serious.

  3. Mike Wheeler on May 10, 2023 at 4:11 am

    With my 93r17 mags. I had several rails open up and would not keep the rounds in place in the mags

  4. kpj on May 10, 2023 at 4:12 am

    Seeing him fuck with the bolt handle to pick up the next round os what I fucking hate about mine. I don’t know if it’s just the 17hmr or if it’s the minimalist line all together

  5. Some Dude on May 10, 2023 at 4:13 am

    Had the exact same gun. Sold it and it was the best thing I did with it. Used the money to get my boy an savage axis. Way better gun.

  6. Hank Hill on May 10, 2023 at 4:16 am

    How many genders are there?

  7. Mike Furbee on May 10, 2023 at 4:17 am

    For the first time yesterday after about 3 years I had problems with cartridges feeding on my Savage 17 hmr. On further inspection, it looked like the problem was that the red plastic bullet guide was getting hung up inside the magazine. I washed it out with isopropyl alcohol, let it dry and presto, the problem went away. Readers might want to try this before they buy new magazines or get rid of their rifles. I think it is an amazing little rifle, flat shooting well beyond 100 yards.

  8. Big willie on May 10, 2023 at 4:19 am

    I like the shades

  9. James Ivy on May 10, 2023 at 4:20 am

    Just bought the savage 93 in the G model, I wanted to have a wooden stock and Iron sights but savage only threaded optics only models so I’ll have to have it threaded. Funny enough I don’t own a suppressor yet. I bought it because I left my RIA M14Y with my EX for her daughter and even it was suppressed and shot suppressed excellently

  10. Farkle Staxbaum on May 10, 2023 at 4:22 am

    The "minimalist" with a 16" barrel weights half a pound more than the cheap basic model 93 with a 21" barrel. They could have made it much lighter with a polymer stock and lighter barrel profile.

  11. Christian Scearce on May 10, 2023 at 4:22 am

    I have one of these I literally just load 2 rounds in the mag because the mag is so shitty. 😂 normally I just use it as a single shot loading straight into the chamber tbh but it’s a great shooting gun for me in .17 hmr I love it

  12. Anthony Posey on May 10, 2023 at 4:22 am

    I hadn’t shot or owned a Savage rimfire until last week. A neighbor let me borrow his 93 in 17 HMR so I could try out the cartridge. My first impression was that the magazine was garbage. Poor round retention, difficult to load, poor feeding… When I was in the Army we took hammers to magazines that acted like these and threw them in the scrap. I bought an A17 and love it. The rotary magazine, while not a Ruger, is 1000 times better than the 93 POS.

  13. SP3 on May 10, 2023 at 4:24 am

    I had the same problem with the mags. All I did was bend the tabs out a bit so the next round points up a little more and everything worked out fine. No more issues except inserting the mag takes a bit of concentration. Thanks for the vid. I thought I was the only one with mag issues.

  14. NovaScotian INFJ on May 10, 2023 at 4:24 am

    its the same system for model b and mark ii…… extraction issues and also mag issues. different types of mags with the B series though. i really want a mark ii FV as its inexpensive and accurate but failure to feed and failure to extract??? whats the point

  15. Curonian Viking on May 10, 2023 at 4:24 am

    5 round stainless magazines work great.

  16. GamerGeek on May 10, 2023 at 4:25 am

    There is an update to this rifle… the mark2 and then the b22 or 17 I’d that is what you are looking for. The 93 is the budget gun.

  17. brockly on May 10, 2023 at 4:29 am

    Idk man… is nutnfancy still an expert? Guy doesn’t look like he’s been off a paved road in awhile

  18. S. Gilbert Dyer on May 10, 2023 at 4:30 am

    Folks, Nutnfancy has gone Willy Wonka. Run to the hills.

  19. Brad Johnson on May 10, 2023 at 4:33 am

    Semi-auto is not a good "bug out" action. Bolt, lever, or even break action is indestructible for someone who can’t get parts or gunsmithing!

  20. Mdog161 on May 10, 2023 at 4:33 am

    Savage is so hit and miss , pun intended, they’re either totally awesome or totally garbage !
    I’ve owned 4 savage rimfires in total , 2 of them were POS’s , 2 of them were awesome.

  21. Gillett Images on May 10, 2023 at 4:34 am

    marlins are the same mag style but way longer

  22. Jack Reacher on May 10, 2023 at 4:35 am

    I love my Savage 93R17! The stamped OEM magazines? Not so much!! I wish to hell Savage would toss China overboard. With the possible exception of high dollar items, Chinese manufacturers have absolutely no concept of QA or QC… SMFH!

  23. Kenneth Wilson on May 10, 2023 at 4:36 am

    The 93 magnums (17HMR/22WMR) came about at a time when one of the primary competitors were the Marlins. Don’t ask me to completely date the Marlin changes, but there was a 25M and 925M generational change for the .22WMR. Think the .17HMR was a 917M but don’t quote me there. I know more about the 25M/925M because my dad has had a 25M longer than I’ve been alive, and I picked up a 925M when I was 13 or so. Saying all that to point out the Savage 93 magnums and Marlin magnums use the same style of magazine as well as the catch/release. I had magazine related feeding issues similar to what I saw you experience on camera. My issue was that the magazine did not fit tightly to the guide rail, so it would move out of alignment when the bolt pushed on the round. The solution was pretty simple. I just had to tune the magazine by slightly bending the tabs that fit over the rail to make it fit more tightly. Smoothed my action right out. Given my POU for my .22WMR, I won’t say the necessity to tune each magazine is a deal breaker since I don’t need a ton of them. As you alluded, the Ruger 77s in the rimfire magnums used a rotary magazine and were out at the same time. More modern options would include the Ruger American rimfires, but also the Savage B series bolt action rifles. They use the same rotary magazines as the A22. The exact model number changes with caliber, but a B17 would be almost exactly what you described in your “recommended improvements” section to bring the .17HMR variant of the 93 into the modern age. A B17 would be a much more direct comparison to a 17HMR Ruger American. If KelTec made a 17HMR variant of the CMR30 that worked and the 22WMR CMR30 worked, it would be an awesome contender for hitting the woods. Be even better if the PMR30 worked and was also offered in 17HMR. What we really need is for Ruger to offer a 5.7 Charger and a 5.7 bolt action that take Ruger 57 mags. Get away from the thin case and rimfire reliability issues of the 22WMR and 17HMR and also get the kind of velocity from a 5” handgun barrel that 22WMR offers from a 20” rifle barrel. At one point, basic 40gr FMJ 5.7 American Eagle ammunition was 14.99/50rd while CCI Maxi-Mag was 12.99/50rd. At that time, I’d have paid that slight cost increase for the benefits 5.7 offered. Seeing that same AE FMJ ammo offered for the 30-40 per 50rd range right now though…I’m not so certain I’d worry about finding something that fills the void between .22LR and 5.56. When you consider that just a few years ago a 50rd box of 9mm FMJ was 9.99 while the rimfire magnums were 12.99, a 9mm PCC or bolt action rifle suddenly starts to make more sense in filling that void between 22LR and 5.56 in every aspect except maybe trajectory beyond 100M. The only real advantage of .22WMR over 9mm inside 100M is that it’s not too much caliber for squirrel while still being just enough to harvest smaller deer (think survival situation instead of legality for hunting).

  24. Chris and Matt--Big Shots! on May 10, 2023 at 4:37 am

    Have you reviewed the Savage 17hmr with the rotary mag and Accutrigger? Excellent rifle, has left-handed version.

  25. Yoyoyoyoyo on May 10, 2023 at 4:38 am

    No matter how busy I am or how crazy Fucking life gets, I always come back to watching your videos and go back to old run and gun videos like in the desert with Zane or the serenity actual videos. Thanks nutn and I hope you keep it up

  26. nutnfancy on May 10, 2023 at 4:40 am

    Thanks for coming out to the video! This or course is thanks to my donors who make this expensive process possible, fully independent reviews: https://www.patreon.com/Nutnfancy You can also donate to the TNP independence with PayPal also, above. Here’s some of TNPP comments on this video!
    "Glenn Rawson Bring on more 17 HMR! I LOVE my Ruger American in 17 HMR with reliable 9 and 15 round mags! 1 2w Paul Kwiatkowski I need a clue. 2w Thomas Bachtell CZ 457: Love it in 22 LR, 22 Mag, or 17 HMR, switching barrels is fun. Awesome accuracy, beautiful, and functional, but you do pay for it. 2w Schmuckatelli Mini-Sniper sounds like a fun shooting competition. Would love to see the crew out in the desert to see who was the best sniper team (Sean the TNPer, Jardine, and TD along with Papa Nutn). 2w Schmuckatelli Nutn rocking the new TNP trucker’s hat! I have to ask…because I know you used to review outdoor clothing…why cover up the logo on your jacket? 2w Ryan Reese Probably from an openly anti gun company like Patagonia or North Face. 🤷🏻‍♂️ 6 2w Load reply Cody Harring Always appreciate the info. Will stick with my 10/22s. 4 2w Pedro Savage having crap magazines in modern times is as common place as ruger copying someone’s idea. My 308 FCP SR uses those junk savage mags, finally they reversed course and went back to AICS pattern mags. 2w Bernal CZ 457 Combo?! Interesting… Love my Mavick 88 combo. 1 2w Casey Jones I have a friend who has that CZ combo and man does that .17 barrel stack’em tight 2w Knaack I have the plastic 17hmr version. I’d echo you on capacity concerns and magazines on occasion that do not fully lock/click up into fire position, but those would be my only issues. It is an excellent prairie dog rifle. It’s light weight and accuracy make it a great choice when your not shooting from a bench. My money is waiting to fly out the door when they give us a quality option for a 17hmr carbine/AR style. The A17 just doesn’t have the 2nd COOL factor. 2w Casey Jones I have the A17 and although it’s pretty accurate the mag issue is atrocious. If I can get mine back cycling it’s getting sold. 1 2w Cesar Villanueva All the issues the Savage 93R had are fixed in the Savage B17……Pic rail…..threaded barrel….rotory mag with 10-25 round mags. I have both riles and love them both for accuracy but hands down the B17 for the WIN! Also some food for thought the B17 is about .6 lb heavier then the older 93R. 1 2w Clint Allison Interesting results that make me sad lol. I’ve got a very early, blued bull barrel 93R17 in left hand configuration that I enjoy a lot. It’s a little heavy for what it is but it’s got good accuracy. That little .17 round is a good groundhog round on the farm where over penetration can be an issue. I’m glad I got a good one back in the day. It won’t be leaving my safe anytime soon 🙂 2w Hold Fast Joe I go to quite a few Appleseed 2 day weekend events and 95% are all 22lr so I see them all. The 10-22 by far most frequently seen on the firing line. I don’t own a 10-22 myself, I’ll rock the savage fvsr you reviewed 11 years ago. After many years of events I’m definitely over 10k rounds through it so given wear and tear it’s held up great, still wonderful accuracy. The Ruger mags are better. Even after years of using the fvsr I’ll struggle with the mags in the timed events that require mag changes. The fvsr I have is ammo sensitive. I have to use either federal bulk or CCI. Anything else the ejector won’t hook reliably. I tried Winchester several times because it’s easily found in my area but it becomes a single shot requiring me to use a knife to dig out the spent cartridges. 2w Andrettski Pretty rifles but total no from me. At the 19:40 mark was so painful to watch all those cycling issues, you held it together better than I would Nutn. Love the Benny Hill/clown world tuba music at the end. I have a 10/22 w/Nikon Prostaff, works for me. I just bought a Charger 10/22 pistol that I’m going to trick out. Unfortunately my commie state won’t let me get the binary trigger. Good, bad or the ugly, I always dig a GRV. 2w Hold Fast Joe Great review BTW, I’m happy you brought out a Ruger option at the end. I would recommend it over the savage despite my years of experience with the savage. I think Ruger did a great job with their design and it edges out ahead of the savage line. One thing you touched on but could’ve expanded further was bolt action is just fun! Get your buddies together to plink and it just adds to the experience! Plus it slows down rate of fire. Even 22lr is getting up there in cost now so addition of throwing the bolt after every shot helps! 2w Charles New Don’t love the rifle, but that AVI-8 watch is very cool. 1 2w Schmuckatelli I paused the video on that watch and tried to figure out what it was, but I was using my phone and it was too small to make it out. Thanks for mentioning that it’s an AVI-8. 1 2w Load reply Ol Retired Fed Best part of the review was the clown music over the frustrating feeding issues at the end. Sort of a final comment on the rifle. I love my Rugers. 1 2w UnnamedSwiss I havent ever used the 93, I recently bought a new mk ii in 22lr, for small game and recreation, I like it, it’s pretty accurate as of yet. And strangely enough it said not to use shorts. And the 10rd mag holds them fine, and it feeds them great and shorts them accurately. I cant say enough about it, but I’m wondering if I got lucky or if it’s just a difference between 93 and mkii 2w Casey Jones I’ve got an A17 (Nutn reviewed the A22 version) and it’s got all kinds of mag issues. I’ve bought 1 more mag to see if I can even get it cycle again and I’m pitching it. Savage makes great bolt actions in center fire chambering but these longer cased rim fires have poor magazines 2w The Nutnfancy Project Yep they do have sucky mags. They need to upgrade them. 2w steve garrett the 17hmr will almost always be alot more accurate than 22 mag. as for the mag, Marlin has a similar type setup with their 17v and 17 vs series. YES it does suck and needs some finnese to put in. I think CZ 457 and tikka t1x has the market for 17hmr. I personally have switched to 17 fireball. I can actually load ammo for it as opposed to 17 HMR being out of stock. of course both suppressed. suppression and 17 caliber is the secret sauce 2w Kyle Zimmerman I have a T-bolt in 17HMR that I bought based on your review of the 22 lr version. I love the little gun. It is a great plinker, and also fills the itch for straight pull rifle (a la k31). I have shot a number of critters with the thing and it is very handy. The trigger does not go super light, but plenty serviceable for hunting. It is also plenty accurate, groups are around 1.5" at 100 yards, but it does cost more than the competition so if you want one, be ready to pay a bit. 1 2w The Nutnfancy Project Great choice in the that Browning T Bolt, such a great gun. Super fun in that .17 caliber too. Glad it’s working for you. 2w Lynn E Fite, Col (r) The firearms industry: Kel-Tec is the most innovative: pmr, cmr, cp33, bullpups, sub2000, etc. always looking for that niche market. Marlin, is dead. It seems Ruger will be content with Ross bolt lever action. Henry dominates the lever action market. Mossberg has a great following with the shotguns, for hunting and competition. Ruger selective introduces improved products based on accurate intel: PCC’s. LCP, R. Americans, the Mark series, and of course the 10/22 heritage. 2w Ronald RayGun Have a 93 in .22 mag…same issues. 2w The Nutnfancy Project There ya go 2w STLParkRanger13 Savage rimfire magazines have a problematic reputation. The 64 is plagued with issues regarding the hard steel bolt shaving down the softer (aluminum?) feed lips/ramp of the factory 10-rounders over the course of a few hundred rounds, leading to feeding cycle issues. I’ve owned three and each one did it. 2w The Nutnfancy Project Exactly. These mags suck. 2w Paul Kwiatkowski Merry Christmas 2w The Nutnfancy Project Thanks Paul 2w David Elkins Gotta stick around and stay for the last minute of the video. 🤣 2w 308dude Yes! Absolutely hilarious with more than adequate background music 🤣 2w Load 2 replies Prepper Life Thx for the YUGE amount of gun content recently Nut’n. I inherited one of these n .22 wmr 2 years ago and have not shot it yet….. I was able to find 15 round mags for it that fit, I guess I’ll find out if they function properly. 2w Lon N The last minute made me giggle- that is what they play for Joe instead of "Hail to the Chief". 2w Jerome J These ear protections look interesting, what are they? 2w Jesse (Sphinx) Clown music at end was great! haha The look you give the camera–been there! 1 1w Dawson Rabb My thoughts exactly lol 1w"

  27. NovaScotian INFJ on May 10, 2023 at 4:41 am

    what would you buy….. i ve no money, need to kill foxes and stuff…. 50m to 300m. need scope, bad eyes. 300 500 dollars max…..

  28. Rob Schulte on May 10, 2023 at 4:41 am

    Might sound stupid, but…..What are the make/model of those awesome sunglasses?

  29. AntitheticMe on May 10, 2023 at 4:41 am

    I had a Savage exactly like your grey 17HMR. Had issues with feeding. So yeah,…the magazines are not good.

  30. Gillett Images on May 10, 2023 at 4:41 am

    17 hmr 200 yards all day

  31. Erin Lutz-VE5EML-VE5LG on May 10, 2023 at 4:42 am

    Hey Nutn… you can get 10 round mags for that gun. Might fix your issues

  32. Chad Basedwick on May 10, 2023 at 4:45 am

    Amazing looking stock. Super interesting.

  33. Michael Alan on May 10, 2023 at 4:45 am

    I just bought a Chiappa Little Badger. Perfect bugout 22lr. Check it out Nutn.

  34. John Skipper on May 10, 2023 at 4:50 am

    They want to force you to be politically correct so that you only use a five round magazine. I guess the next thing will just be a handful of rocks!!!!

  35. Mike of Many Mikes on May 10, 2023 at 4:51 am

    I love the old savages but I stay away from the new ones. I have a Marlin 917v, and a few 22 magnums, Kodiak 260, Savage 65m, and Mossberg Chuckster. The Savage and the Mossberg both have the same magazines.

  36. Jacob Bush on May 10, 2023 at 4:51 am

    I have a ruger American in 17 hmr, got it the first year it came out and it’s been great. Put it in a boyds custom stock it’s a tack driver and I’ve took several groundhogs with it. .17 hmr is a great round especially with the 10/22 mags.

  37. StupidPocket on May 10, 2023 at 4:52 am

    I’d buy one

  38. Brian Rychetsky on May 10, 2023 at 4:53 am

    Good review but all easy fixes with the mag and feeding, takes about 15min. But yeah, antiquated system

  39. cory ernst on May 10, 2023 at 4:54 am

    My 93 minimalist 17hmr has no problems feeding. Its actually my favorite gun. That sucks that you’re having that many problems

  40. Ur_AsianMilfoil on May 10, 2023 at 4:54 am

    I went from Ruger 10/22 22mag still owned… to Savage 22mag sold and now nothing beats CZ 455/457

  41. Jester7 on May 10, 2023 at 4:57 am

    Nutn, my wife was asking about the bodies of the prairie dogs, etc. after you kill them. Do you leave the bodies for nature to take it’s course or pick them up for disposal?

  42. Choogie’s Outdoor Adventures. on May 10, 2023 at 4:58 am

    I just bought the 17 hmr minimalist. I wish I would have looked at it better because the magazine loads crooked I have to twist it a little bit to get it to seat. It loads the rounds fine though. The cut out has sharp edges I took my pocket knife and rounded the edges off. It was not free floated the barrel was touching the left edge of the stock, I took my pocket knife to the stock also and free floated it.

    I’d buy a different gun if I was y’all.

  43. tg0003bpa on May 10, 2023 at 4:58 am

    Thanks with that I will steer clear!

  44. Gilbert _ on May 10, 2023 at 4:59 am

    I know you have done the 93 but what’s ur thoughts on the b22 it has the updated mags similar to a22 but it’s a bolt?

  45. NORTHMAN on May 10, 2023 at 5:05 am

    I hunted grouse with a savage B17 precision last fall and a 100 yards headshot is doable, I would say 50/50 but i prefer to get closer at 50 yards. You are still far enough for them to stay calm and probability for a headshot is close to 100%. That said, I couldnt find federal 17gn ammo. My rifle prefer those to the Hornady 17 and 20gn ammo. Cycling is perfect but the rifle is heavy. I also "had" to modified a pair of 25 rounds a17 mags to fit inside of the magwell! Flawless cycling. I bought a 22lr mark II fv-sr bazooka green yesterday and I’ll try to hunt with it before the end of the grouse hunting season. I will have to take a look at the splitting magazine issue… I kind of buy this rifle to retired my old cooey 600.

  46. Jason Castner on May 10, 2023 at 5:07 am

    I have a savage model.93 stainless bull barrel 22 mag that shoots laser beams and never had a problem with it…can shoot a squirrels eyeball at 50 yards every shot

  47. 1stringoutdoors on May 10, 2023 at 5:07 am

    You are missing out on the Mach 2, i absolutely love that cartridge.

  48. Michael O on May 10, 2023 at 5:08 am

    That would be frustrating. I’m glad I bought the 22 LR. They don’t have the magazine issues you are having. The old 22 rifles I have also take the minimalist mags. I have three HMR 17s and love them. I do agree they could better the mags. The only reason I bought new savages was the accutrigger AND could (I thought) leverage the old mags. It’s idiotic if Savage made the old mags obsolete.

  49. B. Greg on May 10, 2023 at 5:08 am

    Honest review. I have a 93GL (lefty version) in 22mag. I have several 5 round magazines and they all jam exactly like what you showed in the video. I find if you run the bolt slowly, mine works fine. As you said, excellent trigger and a very accurate gun for me.

  50. Plaidcladcanuck on May 10, 2023 at 5:08 am

    you either don’t care or maybe don’t know any better but I’d hate to buy a used rifle from you the way your rack your bolts. Dear Lord man. Another legend

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